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Training Partners and Sparring

Posted on: November 17th, 2012 by admin 6 Comments

Since I have been here at Team Quest, one of the biggest things I have been taking advantage of is training partners. I have a different experience with training partners than others might have but I am sure most people will be familiar with some of my issues.

For one I am the coach at my gym, I am the person who introduced MMA to Pakistan and I am quite sure I will be the person to carry it forward until it takes off on its own and I am long forgotten (or pushed out of the way). So being the coach brings three separate but related problems. 1) I have a problem with getting sparring partners that are at my level or have my experience. Which means I don’t get challenged as I need to be and my training gets boring. 2) Being the coach and the pioneer of MMA in Pakistan I can’t take the risks I need to in training because I am always under pressure to save face and “be the best” which means I am always relying on my A game while others are improving. This is something I have realized is my problem and not of my environment. As a leader I am supposed to set the standard not simply reinforce the status qou (the myth of the untouchable master) 3) Pakistani society unfortunately is experiencing corruption that extends past the government and into the psyche of the people, one of the manifestations of that is too much ego. So when people spar it usually ends up in people trying to beat the person. One of the few times I tapped to a student was during a heel hook and the sad part about it is that I could have tried to get out of it, but I really felt that if I hesitated or took too long that heel hook would  be cranked 100 percent with bad intentions and I would be possibly never compete again. I have been in heel hooks here in Team Quest and I take my sweet time and look at the position and try to get out of it because I have peace of mind that no one going to try and hurt me. When I think about that time in Pakistan, it really makes me resent the person and not want to teach them and that’s unfortunate because they have a lot of potential.

After my experience here I have learned a lot as a student and surprisingly a lot as a coach and not simply in terms of technique but in terms of the training VALUES I need to impart to my students which maybe I have failed in. I need to create a positive LEARNING environment where everyone can LEARN without any negative thoughts about winning or losing. We can save that stress for competition. So for these lessons I really need to thank Team Quest for creating the type of environment with great people, no egos and sincere desires to get better and grow with your team mates and not at the expense of them. In fact just today, I was telling Joel Bowen, the manager at Team Quest Thailand that I have not enjoyed martial arts this much since I started about 6 years ago.

Just to clarify, my gym has great people too, and I hope I haven’t blown things out of proportion. But I need to strive for perfection and although it may never get there I need to make sure it is closer to that ideal with eaach passing day and with each passing lesson I receive in martial arts.

A final thought to ponder. My wife was training yesterday and she was watching the twin brother instructors Joe and Jen spar. She remarked about how fast they were and skillful etc. But one thing that really stuck out and just summed up what the sparring experience should be like 90% of the time she said -

“It looks like they’re helping each other”

Now, when she said this, it wasn’t because they stopped mid spar and gave each other tips. She said that because she noticed that they gave each other opportunities sometimes to try  new techniques, they would back off and let the other throw a combo, they went back and forth and gave each other every opportunity to play with any and every technique with no risk of getting hurt, elbows, knees, throws, every technique, dangerous and otherwise you see in Muay Thai was on display this is the standard that is technical sparring.

What are your thoughts on this matter PAKMMA fans and readers of this blog? Sparring, ego in training etc? Write your comments below!

MMA Fight to come?

Posted on: October 30th, 2012 by admin 2 Comments

One of the things I plan on taking advantage of while I am here is being able to fight in MMA. I have had three MMA fights before in Pakistan but I never really consider them fights that challenged me or gave me opportunities to assess myself and explore what I can do to make myself a better fighter.  These three fights have a total time of a little over 3 minutes with the first fight being the longest at 2 minutes something. If this was the UFC, these facts would be something to be proud of, unfortunately it is not the UFC it is Pakistan, a country where I introduced the sport 3 years ago. So based on that it is safe to say I have not fought a real fight in about 4 years, that’s over half of my total time training in combat sports.

So being here at Team Quest Thailand is giving me access to not only great training but a lot of opportunities to fight. I can not only fight MMA but also Muay Thai on the regular and a good fight against a challenging opponent win or lose is worth months of training. So I am excited tha I get this opportunity to grow even more as a fighter. The one problem however is, that fighting hurts and after a fight, if you got a fair match up there are good chances your going to have a few aches and pains that might take a few days to a couple weeks to get over and that take away from precious training time. On top of that you need to start tapering off before your fight, once again losing precious training time. So right now a big question I have now is, I am here for 11 weeks (well now there are 7 left), how many fights can I get in without sacrificing too much training and what is the best tradeoff, more fights or more training? It’s a real tricky question and one that is simply cemented an already growing assumption that I will need to come back here very soon for an even longer period of time. 11 weeks is simply not enough time to catch up on the years I have lost in self improvement from being in Pakistan, something I addressed in this post HERE.

So, I have a few options coming up for MMA in November and possibly December in Malaysia which I am looking at. I just need to make sure that the finance are there since through the lens of Pakistani Rupees, even the relatively cheap South East Asian airlines costs can cut into the savings account based on Pakistani rupees!

So, with that I am gonna leave you all wondering as I am as to what is to come. Just know that I am very excited to get these chances. On a side note, gonna make up for lost time by adding a lot more posts this week with a lot more pictures!

Keep reading and make sure you guys check like Team Quest Thailand on facebook http://www.facebook.com/tqthailand

Shaheen Smoker F.A.Q

Posted on: October 9th, 2011 by admin 3 Comments

What is a ”smoker” event?

When you’re training in MMA you eventually want to test your skills. Often fighters enter amateur events to get a better understanding of where they stand. But what if you’re not ready for an amateur event, and you have already sparred with everyone in your gym. Then what you want is a “Smoker” – an event in which different schools and gyms pair up and have their students test themselves. This is the perfect solution to test your skills and see what competition is out there.

What are ”Shaheen Smokers”?

Shaheen smokers serve the same purpose, they are designed to introduce new fighters to a professional environment without the pressure and hype of one. Inviting players from other gyms, schools or clubs to test their skills in not just MMA but almost all form of combat sports, be it boxing, submission grappling, muay thai/kick boxing. Shaheen smokers have even introduced mixed rules, catered to the specific needs of different fighters which include but are not limited to, MMA rules with the exception of strikes on the ground, Kickboxing with standing submissions etc.

The first Shaheen Smoker took place on April 17th 2010 at Shaheen MMA Academy, the event saw fighters from different styles of martial arts competing against each other in a ring with a small number of spectators. The event gives fighters the experience and confidence necessary to participate in professional events without the possibility of  performance anxiety.

Who can participate in a Shaheen Smoker event?

Shaheen smokers are not just  for poeple who train in MMA or martial arts, they are for anybody and by anybody, it means literally anyone. Are you a street fighter who likes to brawl in clubs?,do you watch the WWE and think you can take on other guys?, are you a body builder and think no one can beat you?,then come on down to a Shaheen Smoker and test out your skills in a safe and professional environment where at the end of the day its all about the fighters and the audience having a  good time. In order to make sure you get a fight just pre-register yourself after the date of  the event is announced on facebook, twitter and on www.pak-mma.com

Where do Shaheen Smokers take place?

Shaheen Smokers originally took place at Shaheen MMA Academy and Elite Fitness but with Shaheen MMA Academy merging with Synergy Fitness, the smokers now take place at Synergy Fitness, which is just 1KM from the Shaheen Academy location. For complete address and contact information visit www.club-synergy.com .

What happens on the day of the Shaheen Smoker?

A typical Shaheen Smoker day starts of with the participants(fighters) getting weighed so as to ensure complete fairness if the fight has been agreed to happen in a particular weight category. Match ups are announced and the rules of the fights are explained depending upon the proposed match ups by the fighters, after which the fights take place.

Can I get injured if I fight in the Shaheen Smoker?

As this is a combat sport, minor injuries like cuts and bruises occurring in a fight are common, although strict measures are taken to ensure fighter safety from any long term and life threatening injuries by the organizers.

Can I come just to watch the fights?

Yes you can, the aim of MMA Pakistan is to promote the sport of MMA throughout each corner of Pakistan, your presence will resemble the success we have made so far, to show your support also bring your friends and everyone who is interested in MMA.

Which is the best place to train if I want to train for a Smoker?

Depending where you are situated, for Lahore, the best place to train for a smoker or any MMA event is Synergy Fitness.

I have some more questions, who do I contact?

For further information please call 0334-4137706.

To watch fights from previous smokers click here.

Finding a good Muay Thai trainer

Posted on: August 6th, 2011 by admin 2 Comments

So, I decided I would write a short post on finding a good Muay Thai trainer. I don’t mean finding a “certified Kru” in your local McDojo back home but finding a good trainer when your training in Thailand. This is really directed towards guys who are brand new to Muay Thai and are coming to Thailand to train for the first time.

So your in Thailand, you’ve chosen a camp to go train at and your now hitting the pads. You’ve never had any pad time and after even two rounds, your gassed. This is GREAT RIGHT?! Not necessarily. Not all trainers are alike and just cuz you have a Thai guy holding pads for you and just cuz he has had 900 fights doesn’t make him a good trainer. Some guys are good trainers for certain people, as in they click with certain people and some trainers are good trainers for almost anyone and everyone and then you have some who suck. I mean they are terrible and they are wasting your time and money.

Here are a couple of major guidelines that can be the difference between time well spent in Thailand and time wasted Feel free to add more in the comments below if you feel I missed something and I will go back and correct it.

1)  Your pad holding is interactive. This is the most important thing in my book. If you have been perusing through this blog you may noticed that at certain points I make reference to the “jab, cross, kick” man. This stereotype is the total opposite of what a good pad holder should be like. A good pad holder is going to keep you on your toes, he is gonna throw stuff at you, kicks, elbows – may try to clinch you. In response he wants VARIED attacks and counter attacks. It’s not just pad holding with a good Muay Thai trainer it’s half sparring half pads. The “Jab Cross Kick” man will do just that. Jab, Cross, Kick. Nothing else. A lot of people, because they are in Thailand and are training with Thai guy, think they are thus getting good training. Not true.

2) You are being introduced to new techniques and strategies. This is similiar to point number one. Your pad holder has to be interactive if he is to introduce you to new stuff. Muay Thai isn’t just about combination, and hitting someone hard, it’s much more dynamic and versatile, even more than its famous moniker “science of eight limbs” suggests.  It’ about faking your opponent out, it’s about making them miss and responding with an attack of your own, its about chaining together a number of techniques and reactions. I’m not talking about punches and kicks I am talking about something different. Evade, strike, parry, clinch, knee. That whole sentence there is not a series of moves, it’s one move, one “trick” and there are hundreds if not thousands of them, all dependent on the fighter and what has worked for them. A good trainer will introduce you to a number of their favorites.

3) Your form is being corrected. Most foreigners will never have the noodle leg, rubber man slap of the true Nak Muay, but a lot of them get quite close. Thai’s spend the early part of their childhood getting this down before moving onto the little tricks and strageties that make a great fighter. Most foreigners, because they start so much later are in this childhood phase when normal Thai fighters are retiring. Your kicks, elbows and knees (most boxing is often better than the Thais, which is why I wont mention it) probably need work, your not eprfect yet, and your trainer should be correcting you. If it’s your first time in Thailand and you have trained less than five years and your not getting this correction. You probably have a crappy trainer.

4) Your pad holder has good communication skills. This one is kind of tricky because of the language barrier. However, after years of experience on multiple trips, I have had trainers with great English who are worthless at explaining and trainers with no English who would be the charades world champion with their wonderful teaching skills in pantomime.  I think this pretty much comes down with who is a good teacher by any standard and who is passionate about imparting their knowledge to you. If your trainer really wants you to learn, he will get his point across, any way possible.

So, if your brand new, and even if your not, look over these points carefully. If you agree or have some of your own points to make, please comment below!

Koh Samui

Posted on: August 6th, 2011 by admin 1 Comment

So a quick post on Koh Samui for those who are thinking of training there.

Some basic facts for the people who did not bother to google Koh Samui. Koh Samui is the second biggest Island in Thailand and is off the eastern coast. You can get there via air (quite expensive) or by Bus/Train and then take a ferry. The island is getting quite developed but it is not quite developed as Phuket although it is quickly catching up.

I found the weather during my one week stay there to be better than the weather on the west coast. There were no perpetual dark days, where you would not see sun for up to a week and none of the days where it would just rain and rain and rain all day and night in a slow depressing drizzle. But that was just my experience over a week and it’s really nothing to base your decision on because as we all know there is nothing quite so unpredictable as the weather.

The beaches are very nice here, even during rainy season the water was a clear blue and there was more coral to be seen. A lot of that probably has to do with the damage the reefs took on the west coast in the 2005 Tsumani.

There are 4 different gyms on the island, that I know of. I have a review of each of them on the site. They are WMC Lamai Muay Thai, SuperPro Samui, Pinyo Gym and Yuthpan Gym.

The caliber of the Muay Thai overall is very good and all the gyms except for Yuth Pan are very active in the local fight scene. You probably have a good 3-5 fights per week on the island which is quite a lot considering how small and isolated it is relative to other spots.

The two main spots are Chaweng and Lamai. Chaweng is the bigger beach with far more development Lamai is smaller but still quite long with less development relative to Chaweng. I personally liked Lamai beach more than I did Chaweng in terms of quality of the water and amount of hassle and people around.

A couple of tips, definitely get a motor bike. The public transportation is a rip off.  A songtaew, which is one of those red truck/buses that Thai’s use is typically 10-20 baht per ride, however the drivers will charge foreigners 100-200 baht at times, sometimes for distances less than 2 km! Just get a bike, and a map and you will be fine.

Final opinion, initially I did not like Koh Samui too much because since I was unfamiliar with the place I would have to deal with people trying to rip me off and at the same time convincing me that I wasn’t being ripped off. However after a few days of getting to know the system and how to avoid the annoying touts, I really liked Koh Samui. Laid back place and not as touristy as it seems on the surface once you get to know it a bit. Good Muay Thai AND MMA, so it’s definetely a place I will be returning to in the future.

Phuket Top Team

Posted on: August 4th, 2011 by admin 3 Comments

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I was really looking forward to training at Phuket Top Team for a number of reasons. One is that I love checking out new gyms to train at, I have trained at least 20 different Muay Thai/MMA gyms across Thailand, in every corner of the country and I love seeing what thing brings to the table. Two, there was a lot of hype on the internet about PTT and it looked like very legit hype, not just some fabricated BS. Three, it was located in Phuket, somewhere I have spent many months training so it would be good to get back there and hang out in my old stomping grounds. Oh, and finally, my Pakistani brother in arms in MMA, Haider Qayyum seemed to have a lot of friends and training partners training here so that kind of sealed the deal.

Immediately after arriving in Phuket I went to PTT’s office and got my bearings straight regarding accommodation, transport and training. I wanted to stay at the off site accommodation they had listed on their website, the rate was 2,000 baht per week, for a brand new room, with TV, fridge and AC. I also got a motorbike for a week at 900 baht for the week, which is a very fair price. Often times the camps will charge their students way too much for things like motorbike rentals so it was nice to see that I wasn’t being taken advantage of from the get go.

The MMA area is in an air-conditioned hall with very nice mats. Not puzzle mats like you will often see in Thai camps but a continuous vinyl covered mat area similar to what you would find in an actual MMA ring or cage.  The walls are covered in padding and there are posters and signs with inspirational quotes and pictures of fighters all over. Kind of random but I have to say how much I loved the black mats against the red wall mats. Looked great!

The outside or Muay Thai area has a ring and is surrounded by a variety of bags. In this same area is where all the strength and conditioning takes place and it’s a great set up with all the stuff you see high level guys training with, tires, battle ropes, kettle bells, the whole nine yards. I’ll get to that later as well.

I trained the next day and by the end of the afternoon session, it actually hurt to pee. Phuket Top Team has 4 classes a day, two in the morning and two in the evening back to back with at least one Muay Thai session. I did Muay Thai in the morning, followed by Sambo and then in the afternoon MMA followed by Muay Thai. Each class is an hour and a half and to me that seems perfect. The classes are small enough that your not wasting your time doing 10 rounds on the bag before hitting the pads so your training is nice and compact and you pretty much get everything in that you would in a 3 hour session without the boredom or mental fatigue.

So instead of boring you all with a super long post, I am gonna end here and break up the different classes into separate posts.

Yuth Pan Gym

Posted on: August 2nd, 2011 by admin 1 Comment

So my last post was about Pinyo Muay Thai, in my opinion the best gym to train Muay Thai at in Koh Samui. Although I loved the place there was still one more gym that I needed to visit. It’s between Lamai and Chaweng beach and you will see it on the top of a hill on the left side if your heading towards Chaweng. It’s a brand new gym called Yuth Pan and its situated on the inside of hillside, in fact the back of the gym is not a wall, but an outcrop of rock so it sort of feels like your training in a cave. They also have some weights in the back but they are not of good quality nor much variety at all. Kinda like the set up you get at crappy hotel “fitness centers”.

That’s about where the positives end because if Pinyo Gym is at the top of my list, than this place is on the bottom. I went there for the morning session to find out that they don’t do any pads in the morning. All they do is jump rope shadow box and hit the bag. Now you can do alot with that if you have a really good trainer guiding you, but no not at this gym. The trainer was terrible and didn’t even show the future potential that the trainer from Rose Gym (also a new gym) Chang had. This guy was stuck in his ways and those ways were not worth the money you pay to train here. He offered no advice while I was shadow boxing or hitting the bag and thats because he was so impressed with my skill level. I guess he assumed he had nothing to teach me which is totally wrong. All it means is that he is by no means a stadium level fighter nor a trainer. I did not even get the guys name. After my crappy morning session I came by in the afternoon because I figured it would be worth checking out the pad work before passing any judgment.

The padwork was all he same. In fact he gave me two punch combinations to repeat over and over again. Jab, Jab, Cross and Jab, Jab, Cross, Jab, Cross and of course the mandatory kick at the end. And he wasted my time like this for 15 minutes without offering a word of advice or throwing a single kick at me to even block and counter. Couldn’t even hold pads securely so that you would at least get that popping sound when you hit it properly.

Place was brand new and when I talked to the owner he was kind of embarrassed with the training that was going on and kept telling me how he was going to get new trainers.

Anyway, if it remains the way it is I don’t know how it will stay in business. If your curious, try out an afternoon session and let us know. But otherwise, it’s in your best interests to stay away from here.

Pinyo Gym

Posted on: August 2nd, 2011 by admin No Comments

Lamai Muay Thai on Monday, SuperPro on Tuesday and on Wednesday I headed to Pinyo Gym, also by Lamai Beach. I will tell you upfront that this ended up being my favorite gym during my time on Koh Samui. Great training and a great atmosphere.

When I went into the gym I immediately felt the same type of acceptance and camaraderie that I felt going to True Bee gym. In fact Pinyo gym touts the fact that even after one training session you become part of the family. I really felt this and actually read that on their website AFTER training there and getting that vibe.

Apart from the great vibe, the training is also top notch. The head trainer and owner Pinyo is a mad genius. One of the sessions I came too he was teaching everyone seminar style about reactions to kicks and the intensity this guy brought was something I have not seen from a Muay Thai instructor. He really, I mean REALLY wanted the students to learn and learn well. He was pacing around, dripping in sweat looking like a crazed cross between Richard Simmons and Mozart who happens to be a Muay Thai machine. Definetly one of the best instructors I have come across in Thailand and I have experienced many. He’s like that one professor you had in college whose class everyone wanted to attend. The guy is good. I promise you that.

The training is typical of any Muay Thai camp. Skipping, shadow boxing, pad work, clinch and calisthenics. Some of the other things they seem to do is a technique class three times a week in the morning and sparring three times a week in the afternoon.

My trainer  for most of the time there a guy named Lek, one of the most motivating trainers I have ever had and made me want to push myself really hard, really lit a fire under me. He really gets into the padwork and is constantly making you work not just in the sense making you do a million kicks but making you react and counter etc. I honestly have to say that I had my hardest pad work sessions in Thailand with Lek. If you see him let him know “Somchai” says hello. He looks kind of like Dan Henderson just in case :)

The rounds are three and half minutes long with 3 rounds on sparring days and 5 rounds on non sparring days.

The training is 300 per session with no daily rate, something which I hope they change and the weekly rate is 2500 which is substantially higher than Lamai or SuperPro which both have a 2,000 baht rate for training. However I personally would not mind paying that little extra to be a part of a gym where I am getting treated as a member of the team rather than some guy paying money to do his pad rounds. After the first time I trained here I knew I had found my place to train in Samui.

Definitely without a doubt, in my opinion the winner for best camp to train at in Samui. For more info, you can check out their website http://www.pinyomuaythai.com/.

Super Pro Samui

Posted on: August 2nd, 2011 by admin No Comments

Super Pro Samui is where I originally planned on doing all my training for the week that I was going to stay on Koh Samui. However, those plans changed when I found out that the MMA instructor was going to be gone for a couple weeks and that MMA classes were to be student led and only on Tuesday and Thursdays. Couple that in with the fact that Super Pro has the most expensive per day rates on the island I decided to check out one class and then go onto to the other gyms on the island and get an idea about all of them, which in the end turned out to be a good idea for this blog as it gives you guys a lot more insight and information about training on Koh Samui.

First of all, Super Pro has a very, very nice facility. Hands down, the best facility on Koh Samui. The gym has two parts to it. One is a large open matted area with bags and the second part is where the gym is, which btw has a great array of weights to use and where two rings and a cage are situated.

The training is 400 per session, 600 per day and then a huge discount of 2,000 per week.

I arrived there for the afternoon session and guys were doing hill sprints in front of the gym. Anyone who like me did not have proper footwear to run in jumped rope in the open area with the bags.

After that the “official” class got started and took that time to head over to the cage to see what was going on.

Pretty much it was a group of Swedish guys who trained MMA at home and were at Super Pro to work on Muay Thai while keeping their ground game sharp with a few training sessions a week. They were doing an open mat sort of thing. I came in and asked if I could join in and soon after I was rolling with one of the guys and getting creamed! I put up a decent fight but this guy was good and it had been a long time since I had been toyed like this. Turns out the guy whose name is Martin Svenson is a top ten ranked fighter in Europe out of Sweden known for his ground game.  I did a few rolls with him and then did some take downs with another Swede who was absolutely massive. After that I decided to call it quits and go do some Muay Thai since I was more interested in formal instruction than just open mat training, particularly since I had paid good money for one session, I had to make sure I was gonna get my money’s worth.

Pad work was good but nothing to really go into detail about. Wasn’t a job, cross kick waste of time. But was 3 rounds of good quality pad work with a good trainer. Same as you will get in a lot of camps in Thailand but nothing that blew my mind.

Lifted weights, stretched and I was gone.

My final assessment of this place is that this a really good place to train overall. The level of the guys there was pretty high and everyone was pretty serious about training, no tourists who just happened to drive by and decided to give it a try. Everyone there was interested in competition or taking their training to the next level.

Facility is great and if you pay by the week, its a huge bargain.

All I can say is that if you are looking for a personal experience than this may not be the place for you as there were about 30 students training and the gym as a whole did not have that family feel to it.

Overall great place and one you need to check out for yourself.

WMC at Lamai Beach Koh Samui

Posted on: August 2nd, 2011 by admin No Comments

So my first day on Koh Samui I decided to check out the WMC camp. The actual name of the place is Lamai Muay Thai though, they are just affiliated with the WMC. This place has been on my mind since it is affiliated with the World Muay Thai Council (WMC) which quite frankly is the only Muay Thai council that matters. For more information on Muay Thai “Federations” check out this post here which sheds a bit of light on the matter.

WMC is also popular with a lot of star fighters. A few of the guys from the show “Contender Asia” train or regularly make stops at WMC to train. One of the finalists, Zidov trains here regularly and I actually got to meet him.

However, if you go to train there, don’t go there thinking that you will be training side by side with some of the worlds best Muay Thai fighters. I showed up to the 5 pm regular training session and honestly for the first half hour of it I was quite discombobulated. It quite honestly seemed like I was doing an aerobics class.  There was a huge Thai Guy, and I mean huge (by Thai standards) this dude looked like a proper body builder and he was going through the PACKED class (at least 25-30 people in an area the size of one ring and a half) shouting out combinations and making people do push ups, apparently no rounds, just constant calls for this combo and that combo then some squats. It was bizarre and not what I was expecting at all.

However, after a while I did notice that for a big class of beginners the system they had going was actually pretty good. It wasn’t totally random and it followed a certain guideline, starting from punches to elbows, blocks, knees and kicks. After that they had you pair up with a partner and do some BASIC reactions to attacks – block a kick, grab a kick, parry the punch and elbow etc… After that there is kick sparring, boxing sparring then Muay Thai.  At the end of all this everyone gets 2 rounds on the pads with a trainer who is just waiting to go home. Jab, Cross, Kick. It’s become an inside joke for the guys who have trained in Thailand a while, the trainers who’s pad holding system contains “Jab, Cros Kick” anyway, you get a lot of that at the end of your training session.

Now, during this training session there is a parallel session going on on the other side of the gym with some very good fighters. Pretty much what I am telling you is they have a side for the tourists and the people who are training for a short time (me) and guys who are committed and are gonna stay for a while and fight for the gym. And you can tell the other side is getting the proper attention of the gyms instructors and that they really know what there doing.

I only trained here one time, and the price was a reasonable 250 baht per session. However, I think you if you want to get the most out of WMC, you need to have plans to stay here at least one month. If you do end up doing something like that please comment and let us know what your experience was like. If you were to come all the way out to Thailand and get the training that I did on that day, I would say you trip would end up being a waste. However, if you do put int he effort and commit to fight and get the proper treatment, I see no reason why this camp wold not meet and exceed all expectations.